Hermann Detering



Hermann Detering is not really a mythicist. That is, his writing, as far as I know, does not explicitly bring into question the historicity of Jesus. He nevertheless merits inclusion in a mythicism-who's-who, however, because his work is essentially a revisiting and a re-formulating of several of the crucial Dutch Radical theses that were influential to the development of modern mythicism, most notably the notion that the provenance, dating, and authorship of the Pauline epistles are essentially unknown—certainly uncertain. 

The Good

The Dutch Radical school, notorious and influential in a heyday that spanned the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, was but a forgotten branch of critical scholarship by the time the "Third Quest" of the historical Jesus was underway. Were it not for Detering's The Fabricated Paul and for Robert Price's expositions and endorsements of these ideas online and in his own books, this rich trove of scholarship would still be neglected or relegated to a mere footnote in the field of biblical studies.

The (not so) Bad

More than just representing the Dutch Radical skepticism regarding the traditional provenance of the Pauline epistles, Detering (as does Price in his The Amazing Colossal Apostle) also adds to this the somewhat radical idea that the apostle Paul was really a kind of Doppelgänger of Simon Magus, a shadowy figure who was vilified by the patristic writers as the source of all manner of heresy within the ancient Church. The idea is not a preposterous one. Indeed, it is a very thought-provoking idea, and he (they) argue(s) for it fairly cogently, but, given the piecemeal and ambiguous state of the sources from which such a hypothesis can be woven, it can only be speculative in the end. I can entertain it for the sake of the kind of thought experiments that are part and parcel of the exploration of Christian origins, but only with the requisite proverbial grain of salt. Perhaps the arid sands of the Levant will yield some surprise codexes in the future that would further support this idea, but as it stands, it has little circumstantial evidence and/or indirect support from extant sources to commend it.

The Bad

The worst thing I found in my reading of Detering's The Fabricated Paul is the weird (in my opinion) section in which he recalls a visit to a library wherein he finally got to read a rare book he had been searching for by Edwin Johnson, Antiqua Mater (1887), which argues for a form of quasi-mythicism. I have read the book myself and found it to be very good. My apprehension is not so much about the content of this book itself but the mystical, almost sycophantic way that he treats the subject of his quest for this rare book. The section reads like a travelogue digression in what is otherwise a fairly rigorous and scholarly study. He sounds like a fanboy there. What makes it even weirder is that, although Antiqua Mater is a fine book, Johnson's subsequent work, particularly his The Pauline Epistles - Re-Studied and Explained (1894), includes the bizarre claim that the historical period that we know as the Middle Ages (700–1400) never really happened, but was instead an invention of Christian writers, which calls to mind the kind of fringe para-historical conspiratorial formulations of someone like Joseph Atwill, and leaves me scratching my head and questioning its author's mental health and motivations.   Knowing this about Johnson's work makes this section in Detering's book a bit surreal to me, though it does not detract much from its overall approach and usefulness viz Pauline/Christian origin scholarship. 


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  1. Well, I wasn't so charitable in my review of Detering:

    I made it about 75 pages in and had to stop. There is so much wrong with this book that I don't even know where to begin.

    Well, first of all, the author comes across as a whining Liberal - his authorial tone is truly grating.

    Second, his ignorance of a wide range of literature is abyssal and that comes up over and over again right at the start.

    Yes, there are serious issues with understanding what was going on before, during, and after the time that Paul wrote his epistles, and that is what one must attempt to grasp before even applying any tests to the texts themselves.

    Yes, there are numerous interpolations in the texts, but you can't figure out what they must be if you don't have a sound grasp of the context, the background, the atmosphere of the time and places.

    The best way to get that crucial information, IMHO, is to begin with S. G. F. Brandon's "The Fall of Jerusalem and the Christian Church: A Study of the Effects of the Jewish Overthrow of AD 70 on Christianity". Then follow up with Brandon's "Jesus and the Zealots."

    Carrier's "On the Historicity of Jesus: Why We Might Have Reason for Doubt" has a decent discussion on editing, interpolating, and destruction of texts for religion-political agendas, though he doesn't seem to really grasp the seriousness of those people. Another good discussion on that topic is in Walker's "Interpolations in the Pauline Letters". But again, he does not take the evidence as what it really is; they all want to excuse the "pious frauds" as being well-meaning.

    Finally, as to the very early existence of the Pauline letters, see "Matthew, Mark, Luke, and Paul" by David Oliver Smith. He's done a bang-up job, but then, he's a lawyer and not a snowflaky New Testament Scholar.

    I could list a couple dozen more books, each of which gives an angle of view that assists in building a proper picture of the times, the places, the peoples, the ideas, and what likely happened, but the above are already enough to pretty much condemn this book to the dustbin.

    And, by the way, a close and careful reading of Josephus and Tacitus just MIGHT reveal intimations of the knowledge of Paul even though the church thought it had sanitized the two pretty well.

    I'm sorry, like I said, there's just so much wrong, so many ignorant assumptions, so much whining, going on in this book that I just can't finish it. It's all black and white thinking and reminds me of arguing with a 6 year old; no nuances, no comprehensive scholarship; no wide learning at all.

    Oh, by the way: Acts is NOT history, it's historical fiction based on the letters of Paul, Josephus, and more. And I doubt that Paul meant that he was fighting beast in an arena; more likely he had to deal with wild animals while traveling.

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    1. Sorry for the delayed response, but I had not noticed this comment when it arrived. After Hurricane Maria (I was in Puerto Rico at the time), I had to stop all activity on this blog, and I've been thinking of resuming work on it lately.

      Thank you for commenting. I more or less agree with you on this.

      Side note: What gave you the impression that I think Acts is history? I certainly (and clearly, I think) don't think that.

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